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Posted by Davoud on May 17, 2006, 10:43 pm
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osdfey wrote:
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> the MANY programs such as that available for free with a single command
> (or optionally 3 mouse clicks) is why linux kicks ass.
You guys won't give up! How well does Linux run Adobe CS2? iTunes?
Final Cut Studio? MaximDL? MS Office? Don't run The Gimp by me again,
and don't try taking its output to a service bureau. Kicks ass? As a
server OS, sure. As a /user/ OS Linux is a neverwas and a neverwillbe.
Linux guys sometimes lose sight of the fact that /most/ of them don't
do productive work with their OS; they /enable/ /others/ to do
productive work on user-oriented machines. Nothing wrong with that, and
it's an observation, not a criticism -- we couldn't get along nearly as
well or as cheaply without you guys and your arcane little servers.
That doesn't mean that we want to live in the same neighborhood as you
guys and socialize with you, of course, any more than we want to live
and socialize with the very respectable, decent, hard-working, and very
essential guy who cleans our septic tanks. It's not that we think we're
better than him -- or you -- because we don't. It's just that we don't
have much in common. We're in production, and you and the septic-tank
guy are maintenance personnel. You understand, I'm sure.
Davoud
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Posted by Phil Wheeler on May 17, 2006, 11:11 pm
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Davoud wrote:
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> osdfey wrote:
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>>the MANY programs such as that available for free with a single command
>>(or optionally 3 mouse clicks) is why linux kicks ass.
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> You guys won't give up!
Besides, who wants their ass kicked anyway? ;)
Davoud, the new MacBooks announced yesterday are very cool (since I need
both OS X and WinXP and now use two laptops when I travel). As soon as
one of the laptops here fails, I'll order one .. well, maybe sooner :)
Phil
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Posted by Davoud on May 18, 2006, 10:18 am
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> Davoud, the new MacBooks announced yesterday are very cool (since I need
> both OS X and WinXP and now use two laptops when I travel). As soon as
> one of the laptops here fails, I'll order one .. well, maybe sooner :)
I always knew you were clever. Taking a letter opener and slipping it
in that CD slot and moving it around forcefully until the computer
fails is a stroke of genius ;--)
Now here's the /big/question -- white or black?
And how will you install WinXP -- Boot Camp or Parallels? I've only had
a minute or two of mouse time with Parallels, so I can only say that it
was pretty slick; there wasn't enough time to judge the performance of
XP Pro. It was excellent under Boot Camp -- but the machine was not
networked, so XP Pro had no anti-virus/spyware/malware installed to
drag it down. Too bad MS won't let you download updates on any platform
and then move them to the appropriate machine or partition like Apple
does. Then you could keep XP Pro off the Internet entirely and not have
to worry about all that extra stuff.
Anyway, I'm going to wait until fall and a later generation MacBook
Pro. By then both Boot Camp and Parallels should be quite mature.
Native Mac, native Unix/Linux, native Windoze, all on one Mac. Sure
will lighten the baggage!
Davoud
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Posted by Tim Auton on May 18, 2006, 12:33 pm
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>Phil Wheeler wrote:
>> Davoud, the new MacBooks announced yesterday are very cool (since I need
>> both OS X and WinXP and now use two laptops when I travel). As soon as
>> one of the laptops here fails, I'll order one .. well, maybe sooner :)
>I always knew you were clever. Taking a letter opener and slipping it
>in that CD slot and moving it around forcefully until the computer
>fails is a stroke of genius ;--)
>Now here's the /big/question -- white or black?
There's a hefty price premium for black, even when you subtract the
value of the larger drive.
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>And how will you install WinXP -- Boot Camp or Parallels? I've only had
>a minute or two of mouse time with Parallels, so I can only say that it
>was pretty slick; there wasn't enough time to judge the performance of
>XP Pro. It was excellent under Boot Camp -- but the machine was not
>networked, so XP Pro had no anti-virus/spyware/malware installed to
>drag it down. Too bad MS won't let you download updates on any platform
>and then move them to the appropriate machine or partition like Apple
>does.
I've downloaded Windows 2000 updates individually using my Mac in the
past few weeks. MS certainly don't make it obvious on their site that
you can download individual updates, but you can. I guess they prefer
you to use Windows Update so they can spy^H^H^H ensure compatibility.
Tim
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Posted by Davoud on May 18, 2006, 1:58 pm
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Davoud wrote:
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> >Now here's the /big/question -- white or black?
Tim Auton:
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> There's a hefty price premium for black, even when you subtract the
> value of the larger drive.
Yes, I believe it's $150 for otherwise identical configurations. This
has been the subject of some back-and-forth on comp.sys.mac.system. My
take? A fool and his money are soon parted.
Davoud
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> (or optionally 3 mouse clicks) is why linux kicks ass.