Role of Robotic Scopes during a Depression!

> Once again, economic conduitions are forcing educators to lay off
> teachers,
> close programs and buildings, and trim educational expectations.

>
> Club's who can share their robotic scopes with wschool systems could
> provide
> a badly needed resource!

>
> Club's who have dallied for ten years+ spending over $125,000 (some say
> $150,000!) and still argue and cant get their systems to work, should
> stowe
> their ego's and put up or shut up ... and maybe turn their $125,000
> dollar
> assets over to others who can get a simple dpdt switch to work, without
> starting World War III !? Yes. It really is almost that simple.
> Just do it!

> jwarner1 wrote:
> > Once again, economic conduitions are forcing educators to lay off
> > teachers,
> > close programs and buildings, and trim educational expectations.
> Is observational astronomy anywhere on the core curriculum in the USA?
> There is an Astronomy GCSE in the UK but it is almost rarely taught in
> state (US public) schools. Core curriculum comes first. Clubs sometimes
> teach it if there is enough interest among the junior members.
> > Club's who can share their robotic scopes with wschool systems could
> > provide
> > a badly needed resource!
> In the UK there is enough high class robotic scope time to go round
> already thanks to the generosity of various donors. The shortage is of
> amateurs and teachers who can teach about astronomy, maths and physics.
> http://www.astro.ljmu.ac.uk/RoboNet/
> http://www.telescope.org/
> Being two examples of 2m class scopes available for schools (and others
> to use remotely).
> > Club's who have dallied for ten years+ spending over $125,000 (some say
> > $150,000!) and still argue and cant get their systems to work, should
> > stowe
> > their ego's and put up or shut up ... and maybe turn their $125,000
> > dollar
> > assets over to others who can get a simple dpdt switch to work, without
> > starting World War III !? Yes. It really is almost that simple.
> > Just do it!
> Were you thrown out of your local astronomy society or something?
> Regards,
> Martin Brown

>
> Martin Brown wrote:
>
>> jwarner1 wrote:
>>> Once again, economic conduitions are forcing educators to lay off
>>> teachers,
>>> close programs and buildings, and trim educational expectations.
>> Is observational astronomy anywhere on the core curriculum in the USA?
>> There is an Astronomy GCSE in the UK but it is almost rarely taught in
>> state (US public) schools. Core curriculum comes first. Clubs sometimes
>> teach it if there is enough interest among the junior members.
>>> Club's who can share their robotic scopes with wschool systems could
>>> provide
>>> a badly needed resource!
>> In the UK there is enough high class robotic scope time to go round
>> already thanks to the generosity of various donors. The shortage is of
>> amateurs and teachers who can teach about astronomy, maths and physics.
>> http://www.astro.ljmu.ac.uk/RoboNet/
>> http://www.telescope.org/
>> Being two examples of 2m class scopes available for schools (and others
>> to use remotely).
>>> Club's who have dallied for ten years+ spending over $125,000 (some say
>>> $150,000!) and still argue and cant get their systems to work, should
>>> stowe
>>> their ego's and put up or shut up ... and maybe turn their $125,000
>>> dollar
>>> assets over to others who can get a simple dpdt switch to work, without
>>> starting World War III !? Yes. It really is almost that simple.
>>> Just do it!
>> Were you thrown out of your local astronomy society or something?
>> Regards,
>> Martin Brown
>
> Not yet anyway (smile). When it became evident our robotic program
> was bogging down with acrimony on all sides (10 years later!) I suggested
> we either scrap what we had and start over or simply buy in to someone
> else's robotic program IF the club really wanted a ronbotic option. The
> vote was NO as it always is. So 3 or 4 guys sit with this huge investment
> and nothing happening, now there is a lack of staff to even supervise the
> project, and the project has literally bled the club to death - and now
> these
> idiots want $6000-$8000 more to try a new gamble! It's crazy.
>
> But these guys will never concede. They would see our (their!) club
> destroyed first.
>
> This insanity has ripped our club apart due to the huge egos involved.
>
> Its sad.

failed to make progress for 10 years and spent >$100k. But then we only

> jwarner1 wrote:
> > Once again, economic conduitions are forcing educators to lay off
> > teachers,
> > close programs and buildings, and trim educational expectations.
> Is observational astronomy anywhere on the core curriculum in the USA?
> There is an Astronomy GCSE in the UK but it is almost rarely taught in
> state (US public) schools. Core curriculum comes first. Clubs sometimes
> teach it if there is enough interest among the junior members.
> > Club's who can share their robotic scopes with wschool systems could
> > provide
> > a badly needed resource!
> In the UK there is enough high class robotic scope time to go round
> already thanks to the generosity of various donors.

> The shortage is of
> amateurs and teachers who can teach about astronomy, maths and physics.

> http://www.astro.ljmu.ac.uk/RoboNet/http://www.telescope.org/
> Being two examples of 2m class scopes available for schools (and others
> to use remotely).